Calleman Proved Wrong about End Date of Mayan Long Count by Geoff Stray
Carl Calleman's theory that the current Long Count cycle ends in 2011 instead of 2012 has been refuted in several ways by Geoff Stray, author of Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Transformation. After emailing Stray about our proof Calleman is wrong, he replied with more details. This was Stray's reply, which is published with his permission. For even more, see Stray's review of Calleman's book.
More Proof that Calleman is Wrong
Dear Shay,
Glad you posted this...Also: POINT 1:
4 Ahau 3 Kankin is going to be Night Lord 9— the one that ended every tun, since there are 9 of them and 9 divides into 360.
However, Oct 28 2011 will be Night Lord 3.
Page 3 of my new essay explains why this is important
—it represents the fully-developed maize seed-head —directly compatible to human development phases —i.e., the evolutionary phase completion will be Night Lord 9 [editor: as seen here], not night lord 3. (See Lords of the Night calculator for proof.)
POINT 2:
Calleman's statements reveal that he finds the internal correlation between Long Count and Tzolkin to be faulted. However, what he fails to point out is that this implies that EVERY SINGLE MAYA INSCRIPTION IS WRONG! This is because every inscription includes a reference date with Long Count and Tzolkin... this internal correlation is the same for all inscriptions. Correlation between Maya calendars and Gregorian has been much discussed, but nobody has ever questioned internal Long Count/Tzolkin correlation since it is constant and beyond dispute...yet, because it didn't suit his theory, he implies that every inscription is wrong. I pointed this out to him in a forum in Virginia Beach last year.
I did a talk based on the info expounded in Tortuguero/Nine Gods article referenced above at Virginia, and Calleman was excited because of the number 9 in the Tortuguero prophecy, which he immediately connected to his 9 Underworlds theory...I thought he would! He asked me if I had published anything about this, and I said no, but intended to...and sure enough, within 2 weeks he had produced an article claiming the Tortuguero monument as evidence for his end-date, simply because 9 gods are mentioned. However, he failed to mention that the prophecy, in the very next line, dates the 13.0.0.0.0 date as 4 Ahau, 3 Kankin - i.e. 21 December 2012!...a direct piece of evidence actually pointing out his error—the very opposite to what he states!
Nice work
Thanks!
All the best,
Geoff
This page was posted on 3 Q'at, 2010.